Grateful Dead

Cornell 5/8/77 Vinyl (5-LP)


All hail the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows! In honor of the anniversary of CORNELL 5/8/77, we're issuing a 2nd pressing of the complete show on 5LP.

The Grateful Dead played more than 2,000 concerts, but none continues to spark interest and provoke discussion quite like the band’s performance at Cornell University’s Barton Hall on May 8, 1977. It is one of the most collected, traded, and debated concerts by any band ever, has topped numerous fan polls through the years, and was a favorite of the group’s longtime archivist Dick Latvala, who stated: “Enough can’t be said about this superb show.” Even Uncle Sam got into the act in 2011 when the recording was “deemed so important to the history and culture of the United States” that a copy was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry.

CORNELL 5/8/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson. After several years the master tapes were seemingly lost for good, but that all changed at the end of 2016. The lost tapes finally made their way back home to the Grateful Dead vault, making it possible to officially bring the world this legendary show. The complete live show has been transferred and restored by Plangent Processes and remastered by long-time Grateful Dead engineer, Jeffrey Norman.

The 2nd pressing of the 5-LP Cornell 5/8/77 set is on 140-gram vinyl and the packaging features an alternative color-way.

Purchase the Cornell 5/8/77 5-LP set between Tuesday, 5/8 at 12:01am PT and Sunday, 5/13 at 11:59pm PT and get a free SYF Mandala Kaleidoscope.

Product Details

5LP
140-gram
Alternative Packaging Color-way

Comments

comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
unkle sam's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 3 2008
cd transfered to vinyl

that's too bad, they had an opportunity to use the analog tapes, but cheaped out and did it the easy way. Sorry ICkid, ask for a refund if you can't get that smudge out.

icecrmcnkd's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 20 2015
Bought this a few days ago

Side 6 (Scarlet/Fire) had a huge smudge on it and was dirty. Totally unlistenable. Tried cleaning it with an official record cleaner and it still sounds like crap.

The recording itself just sounds like the CD was transferred to vinyl.

Pretty much a waste of $.....

Offline
Joined: Sep 10 2009
Lawrence

It was some kind of spam for a cleaning service...nothing exciting!

LedDed's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 16 2017
Fearlessly, the idiot faced the crowd...

I don't know if anyone else noticed. For sort of a brief time yesterday aft., someone had just opened an account here (5/14/18) and had posted some kind of line by line screed in Arabic.

It just struck me as... odd. I asked, basically, what the hell are you saying? Without any real prejudice but with an ear toward caution as I would approach any similar circumstance.

I see the post has since been deleted. So, the whole "Lawrence please translate" thing now appears as a total non-sequitur.

But, at least there's this (thank you Warren).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7a5UuW7BE&list=PLZ2lQK8kWoudP6L3ftHdV3...

\m/

mbarilla's picture
Offline
Joined: Aug 8 2013
Live and let live peeps

But yet there is a complaint about the complaints Lol. I don't F%Cking get it.

mustin321's picture
Offline
Joined: Aug 12 2011
Very mixed feelings about this...

I'm glad they are making more of these available for the people that missed out on the 1st one. Its a great show and there is certainly high demand. But isn't it available on CD and Spotify...I don't think anyone is deprived here...I just wish that when GDM states something is limited edition, they start numbering all of them. I probably have enough Grateful Dead music to last a lifetime but I buy these releases because they are "collectors" items. (I'd still buy them anyway). So, the only different between the 1st set and the 2nd is 40 grams? What a joke...I guarantee no one here can spot the difference. Maybe make the 1st pressings a different color too? I don't know...
I recently got the Jerry Garcia Before the Dead vinyl edition, which is supposedly limited to 2500 copies. That's a pretty small amount, but my local record store has copies for sale...just makes me think they made way more than 2500 and the pretty "limited" Sticker on it just helps them sell...if something isn't limited, don't say it's limited...

And the price of this is too much...$20 more than it should be...even with the kaleidoscope that will only end up in the back of someone's closet.

LedDed's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 16 2017
Lawrence of Arabia

Care to translate that into English for any non-believers, dude?

Offline
Joined: Sep 15 2009
Buy the download

Hello everyone, just wanted to put in my two cents. If you are buying this set because you would like it in an analog format, remember that Plangent requires the tapes to be transferred to digital to work. This set is cut from a hi res digital file, not tape. The hi res download will be the cleanest most dynamic format at $40.00. With the vinyl you are just putting that digital file onto a physical format with all the limitations introduced from the needle touching the groove. Signal to noise goes down, less dynamic range. You do get the nice big artwork and it is nice to see the record spin but for the price, buy the download.

unkle sam's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 3 2008
it's all good

Leddead, I like a lot of people on this site too, some, not so much, but the world is full of people, and God, in his wisdom, sprinkled in a few jerks and assholes, just to keep us on our toes. I appreciate your positive feedback "crotchety old fuck" signing off

LedDed's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 16 2017
Hey, man...

...it was all in fun. I appreciate your dignified response. You got tons on me in terms of experiences and time way back with this band. Who gives a shit what I think?

I did consider that remark for a while before posting, but to hell with it. You took it like a man. A man with steel balls.

Keep on truckin', all of y'all. I like you guys.

boblopes's picture
Offline
Joined: Jan 13 2009
Thanks for all of the feedback!

Beautiful day to listen to:

Rotterdam 72
St Paul 77
Springfield CC 78

Keep Rockin!

unkle sam's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 3 2008
crotchety old fucker

Wow, sure don't mean to come off that way, but if you read it that way, blame the internet, blame my lack of written skills, blame it on Trump, blame it on 9/11 when the world changed, blame it on anything you want, I don't care. It just seems that if you have an opinion that is different than others, you are open to attack, but fear not, I wear a steel cup so you can't hurt me with your colorful remarks.
I agree with Space a lot, so sue me. I have been called a lot worse than crotchety old fucker leddead, and it's ok. It's only words and one must consider the source of the attacks, which most of the time it's from someone who has a different opinion and just can't resist throwing stones when there is no fear of retaliation. I'm sure most here that I have had a difference of opinion with would never say those things to my face, that "balls" thing you talked about.
As far as lp's go, I love them, I can't afford them anymore, but I still love them. My first lp was Paul Revere and the Raiders, Kicks. It cost .99 cents. Lp's will last quite a long time if you take care of them, keep them clean and the cats and dogs away from them and all your loaded friends who just can't resist dropping them on the corner of the coffee table. 180 to 200 G is one fat record, almost impossible to warp and was the standard for most all audiophile recordings I own, but I also have some dynaflex lp's that sound great and weigh about 50 g, it depends on the press, if you press and press and press the same lp off of the same master lacquer, it will eventually lose it edge, the actual part that presses against the vinyl and cuts the grooves, so, the more "limited editions" they cut, the worse they will sound, until you get the millionth press, which has hardly no highs and lows left, as they have been worn off from all the cutting that it has done. Did Rhino remaster and make a new acetate? Probably not, so a second edition will not sound as pristine as the original batch of records cut. That's why imports are better, thicker vinyl, and cut with care, and also promotional copies that they send to radio stations, they are the very first cut, and sound the best. They know they are going to be played, and played a lot, so a better press and better vinyl is used for these, usually. There is an exception to all rules, but from my experience of buying vinyl for now 50 years, I find these perceptions to be true.

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
@ boblopes

Ha welcome to the world of vinyl fanaticism. I don't go nearly thay deep. They can get really peasonal, your mama stuff. No what I was referring to durability is simply the extra vinyl helps retain flatness and possibly some other qualities over the decades. Why I should be worrying about decades now is beyond me.

Terrapin Moon's picture
Offline
Joined: Apr 9 2018
the only thing I know about

the only thing I know about vinyl is I'm not all that interested in it anymore. when I was buying it i was buying it from independent small labels at the time cuz it was kitschy with me and retro this was when vinyl was gone from major label releases you wouldn't find it in stores and I was fascinated even though our turntable was broke. I think some of mine are probly worth something to someone as they all mostly out of print. and it didn't cost nearly as much then either. I could get a vinyl format I think for about 7-8 bucks then. this was like early 2000's

boblopes's picture
Offline
Joined: Jan 13 2009
durability of 180g vs 140g???

Aren't they pressed against the same master so the depth of the groove that the needle tracks is the same? I did some research after asking the difference earlier in this thread and was blown away by the potential can of worms from a turntable geek perspective - tracking, height alignment (vat) due to thickness of the record - wow was not my intention, just want to educate myself and get feedback from fellow bus riders. Besides that technical stuff that my low end turntable does not have, it seems that the thickness will provide deeper base because of the heavier "substrate" - not sure about the specifics and don't want to start a heated debate but figured I'd reply back. Still giving it some thought.

Is the durability due to the thickness will plane flatter so less inclined for the needle to skip? of the thicker the disc, the less chance of warpage?

LedDed's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 16 2017
Sonic Broom

Nice post, Spacebrother. I never understand people kicking you and Unkle Sam and some of the rest of the crotchety old fuckers here square in the balls - I really don't. As I have said before, if we all painted with the same brush it would be boring as hell. Nice people, well, some of them have no balls at all, and I'd rather hang out with raging alcoholics than teetotalers. For the color, if nothing else.

Rhino is going to do what they're going to do and we're all just going to have to live with it.

Everyone here is brought together by a shared love for Jerry Garcia and the music, that continues, in various forms... in some degree or another.

Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel...

\m/

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
Silver and gold

Actually that's a better analogy than mine for the 140 v 180. To me it was/ is less about sound than durability of the medium

icecrmcnkd's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 20 2015
snafu

Silver CDs vs gold CDs.

A lot of people claimed that the gold Dark Side of the Moon sounded better.

I never heard it so I don’t know

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
2 cents is what it's worth

I'll say again because it unfortunately needs to be said People With Integrity Care.And those who understand what giving your word means. Who knows maybe Rhino will eventually give in but so far they have shown integrity. As for ebay once again yea to them. I have to use them every rsd since I work on Saturdays. Not to mention all my other record collecting. I have every GD release going back to day one and will never sell any of it. This year I accidentally bought 2 subs. Rather than chance losing both trying to cancel 1. My nephew is the beneficiary of that mistake. Point being in case you missed the point the 1st time. It ain't about making a killing for those of us who oppose reissuing ltd ed it's about one's word.
As for vinyl 180 gram vinyl will always hold its value v. 140 gram. An analogy might be silver discs v. Burnables

Terrapin Moon's picture
Offline
Joined: Apr 9 2018
i think the most I played

i think the most I played vinyl in forever was last summer where I played nirvana's Bleach two times in a row. and some people were NOT happy about it lol.

Offline
Joined: Apr 19 2009
Cornell

I do find it interesting how much people are reselling the old CD boxes for but if people are willing to pay that much more power to the open market of selling them

I'm happy to see this get a 2nd pressing because I missed out on the first and am now happy to be able to play this on vinyl and wear it down over the years - no intent to collect just to listen and enjoy!

I did have to buy the FW69 LP set on eBay but I still feel it was a reasonable price at $75.

SPACEBROTHER's picture
Offline
Joined: Jun 4 2007
My 2 cents

First off, it seems that most who are complaining about reprinting limited edition releases are those who resell these. Those reselling the 1st vinyl printing for $180+ now have to compete with a cheaper option and aren't going to be as profitable in second hand markets.

While "all music edition" versions of re-releases of box sets is another point that sets people off.

My view is that this music should be made available to anybody and everybody who wants it, especially that damn FW '69 box. Just re-release it. Who cares if some schmucks on Ebay won't get the $500+ they want out of selling them secondhand.

I've subscribed and collected dave's picks from the very first year, and wouldn't be at all upset if they decided to reprint all of those too. I would just hope that some of the shows that were chopped up into the bonus discs would be made available in their entirety.

I haven't really been a vinyl collector since the 80's, when most releases were still coming out in that format. I've acquired a handful in recent years, but never play them. $120 (let alone $80) for something that will degrade the first moment I place a needle on it doesn't really appeal to me. If it were something that's only available in the vinyl format, I would consider it, strictly to play once to transfer to digital, then listen to that copy exclusively. otherwise they are just pricey cardboard sleeves and boxes that serve as tchotchkes. I suppose if I had disposable income and plenty of space to display, I would get into them more.

Back in the day I would buy brand new records for between $6 and $10 per vinyl disc. I think I bought my first brand new vinyl copy of E'72, a three record set for under $20.

That being said, I'm still tempted to get 2/27/69 FW on vinyl because I missed out on the FW '69 box, and am glad that at least they are up to reprinting them finally. Would prefer a reprinting of the CD box though. There is a certain warmth to vinyl though, if you don't mind the snaps, crackles and pops. Extra caution and care is required, short of keeping ones turntable in a perfectly dust free sterilized environment, free of vibrations that can cause the needle to jump out of it's groove and scratch up your $180 secondhand vinyl purchase.

I still prefer physical media over digital though, unless it's a USB.

If there were to be a massive powergrid failure, and one doesn't have solar panels, then I would consider going back to vinyl with those old-fashoioned hand crank-style spring-loaded record players with the oversized speaker cone. Music listening for the Amish.

Offline
Joined: Sep 10 2009
Cornell?

All this for a show that's not even the best of that month!

Offline
Joined: Dec 17 2011
May

10th 1980

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
@iko

You missed the point I originally made and several others agreed with. I was responding to the unfortunately many here who think profit is bad with an additional I want it my way unltd. forever available no matter what the cost because this whole thing isn't about the money it's about the music. Reality no money no music even if our sainted Dead were doing it.
As far as capitalism getting the most product into the most hands. That's part of it the other part is timex v. rolex

Terrapin Moon's picture
Offline
Joined: Apr 9 2018
it IS all about the

it IS all about the music....all the music I can get my hands on. and also its NOT all about the music cuz if it was the band would have to 9-5 jobs cuz every show would've been free. lets agree there's a happy medium inbetween

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
@seth

Good you can read a nice infallible as the pope wiki. When Warners took over Rhino they eased out handmade because wait for it ...it didn't make enough return for the cost. The two ltd issues I mentioned have never been reissued along with Aretha and numerous others. I'm one of those people you don't like a collector and pay attention to those things. Wounded Bird is a reissue company and a pretty good one at that. But they reissue old records they aren't in the business to reissue Rhino. As for reveling in Marx's 200th good for you lots of historical illiterates around and they go hand in hand with economic illiteracy. So wave your fool flag high

Seth Hollander's picture
Offline
Joined: Aug 27 2009
Snafu

I Wikipedia-ed Rhino to get dates.
I believe the limited edition releases you are referring to are from "Rhino Hand Made". That imprint/series was begun in 1999, I read. Rhino was bought by Warner in 1998. Rhino's founder left in '99 and started Shout! Records, a re-issue label that in many ways mimics the practices and ethos of pre-Warner Rhino.
At least a dozen of the Rhino Hand Made releases have recently been re-released by the Wounded Bird label. Wounded Bird has some sort of relationship with Warner and only releases re-issues of Warner-owned releases. These Rhino HM re-issues have all been in standard "jewelcases" with booklets that include only a small portion of the original release booklet. So those particular "limited editions" of yours haven't EXACTLY been re-issued.

Regardless of anyone's overall opinion of Capitalism, my point remains. To expect artistic integrity or attenuation of profit-seeking from a corporation is naive. Sorry I am not bowing to your sacred cow.

Marx and Jesus are both intellectual saints who's legacies are demeaned by being used to benefit those seeking selfish power and social control. Nothing left to do but dance and shake your bones...

Loving my elite-ness, by the way. Soooooo goooood.

LedDed's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 16 2017
Cornell Box

I got the big box with the book and it was immaculately packaged with great sound. I also sent the vinyl set to my friend in L.A.

I believe I may have seen the set offered, actually, for less on amazon/eBay after my purchase. And now it's being re-released.

Do I feel burned? No. I can't get worked up about first world problems like this.

All that matters IS the music. Isn't that why we're here? But of course people have to make a living and these are priced commodities.

Just feel the love, people, and if you are not, tune into a different frequency.

Offline
Joined: Mar 1 2015
2nd pressing

If you don't want the record, don't buy it. No one's twisting your arm.

True. However, I think that the people that really wanted this album and were forced to deal with the secondary market have a valid complaint. A lack of limits on how many copies a person can purchase puts a real strain on the ability for fans to obtain something they are led to believe is no longer available, for regular retail prices.

Nothing wrong with the limited release format. A little help from the band and rhino in terms of dealing with the secondary markets by increasing availability and limiting the number a person (or bot) can purchase would be nice. The increase of availability and limits to copies purchased proved to be fairly successful in terms of Dave's Picks 2018. Hopefully, going forward, Rhino and the band will continue to address this issue with oncoming releases. It's pretty easy for them to determine what will be a hot item and a definite sellout. Why not take that extra step and give the many Dead and music fans a better shot at obtaining the music? Certainly by now, it has been proven that EBAY resellers are NOT the reason the band can continue to release so many shows via box set, vinyl and cd.

Many of you have mentioned capitalism as an excuse or arguing point to shout down the "whiners" here. Can't capitalism be also about trying to get the product in the hands of as many fans as possible without having them gouged by the secondary market? I mean, the band did in fact at one time take that extra step in terms of selling tickets to their shows.

It's a good thing this is now available to all. It should never have been a limited release in the first place. It's just unfortunate that some people, more specifically in this case, vinyl enthusiasts were led to believe that the only way to get their hands on the album was to overpay on the secondary markets because it had "sold out". At least now, those that could not afford or were unwilling to shell out $200 for this can still get it a more economical(?) price.

Offline
Joined: Dec 17 2011
Change of heart

Yesterday I saw this reissue as a money grab today I view it as good business. It's an alternative to the first pressing because the color scheme is different than the first pressing it's not a reissue in the strictest sense of the word hence I'll call it an alternative release. Sorry dead.net I take back what I said.

It's Wednesday DeadLand PLAY DEAD & play em LOUD

icecrmcnkd's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 20 2015
Capitalism

That’s why tickets for Dead shows went ‘on sale’.

That’s also why street musicians put out a container for money. They might be street musicians but they still want to get paid.

Let’s see, how many bands do I know of that came from socialist or communist countries?
Hmmm......none.
France is sort of socialist, how many French bands do I know of?
Hmmm......none.

Offline
Joined: Sep 3 2008
Capitalism

If it wasn't for capitalism, I wouldn't have been able to make it to the next show, and the next one, and the one after that.

If you don't want the record, don't buy it. No one's twisting your arm.

SteveGold425's picture
Offline
Joined: Apr 28 2018
mbarilla = sterotype whine

Please see previous comment mbarilla. You overthink this shit. Buy it if you want it. Pass if you don't. Prefer CDs or vinyl. It doesn't matter. Youre not going to be right or wrong either way. Life is simpler than you make it out to be. As for the Rhino feeback all Id be getting from this if I were them is the realization that Deadheads are just as petulant and lame as the gen pop

Offline
Joined: Nov 5 2010
Reissues

*

LetsGoCaps's picture
Offline
Joined: Feb 5 2008
Complainers

With every new release the complainers take to this board to voice their displeasure with Dead.net, Rhino, Dave, and the old standby Capitalism.

I find it very entertaining.

direwulf's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 15 2007
CAPITALISM and bored at work.

Don't thank God for capitalism. He hates it, those sentiments were thoroughly and expressly conveyed by his kid, but who knows most of us don't listen to our parents.

I'm not the least bit religious but thanking a flying spaghetti monster for the root of all evil is somewhat perplexing :)

One of capitalism's greatest lies is that it is the ONLY system that humans can function within and the ONLY system that is successful for a society or an economy. The ones at the top with all the cash, they survive because society believes that lie. Things I've been seeing, reading and hearing lately give much evidence to the contrary of those beliefs.

Plus, if there was no capitalism we'd all live in a magical land of GD rainbow unicorn farts and society would create free and vast listening libraries of high-quality recordings adjacent to beautiful multi-use pavilions filled with new GD-inspired music by the disciples and engaging discussions on the "best" GD era. Plus, all the free Kool-Aid you can drink... :) Watch out for the 1980s Cult of Jerry though, that is a wily bunch of zealots ya got there.

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
@ seth reading comprehension

Thanx for making my point. I really don't care if you don't like the collector part of the market. That wasn't my point. As for your little history lesson when Rhino was a little baby record company guess who went with ltd issue. I have a bunch Butterfield Rascals etc. As for CAPITALISM thank God without it we'd have no releases. Why do I get the feeling you're one of the elite like the NYT ed. page celebrating the importance of Marx's 200th.

boblopes's picture
Offline
Joined: Jan 13 2009
200g vs 180g vs 140g - is there a difference?

Most of my record collection came from the era of paper thin records from the 1980's. I adopted CDs early since the records produced back then easily warped. Now that I'm dipping back into vinyl, I was curious about how much of the different weights of vinyl actually make a difference. I do realize that first run pressings will always be the most pristine. I figure the idea of 200g probably was spawned from watching Spinal Tap's scene of Nigel explaining why his amp went to 11 ;)

Thanks for the explanation...

Offline
Joined: Mar 3 2015
Its all about the money

for SOME collectors for others its about having the music. peace and love

Offline
Joined: Jan 13 2010
"It's all about the music", said in an adult voice

meaning, "I don't give a fuck if they re-release everything four times over."

make it available to whoever wants it, so they can enjoy it.

meanwhile, hooray for Cornell 77!

unkle sam's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 3 2008
why is everyone so angry?

if you don't like it, don't buy it. Who cares anyway? sure is a lot of effort here to make people feel bad for their opinion, best just keep it to yourself, especially now days. Rhino is all about money, remember that first, then everything else makes sense. Personally, I don't think Rhino asked one surviving member of this band if they cared if they re-released anything.

Seth Hollander's picture
Offline
Joined: Aug 27 2009
"All about the music"

I am an "All about the music" guy. I don't care for the people in our GDM consumer community who are devoted to these releases for their "collector value". I don't care for the arguments that the "secondary market"ers are the heroes who keep the music flowing (by hoarding copies of limited editions and selling them later at much higher prices).

However, saying that GDM's work should be "All about the music" is naive, in my opinion.
To expect profit-driven businesses to be "honest" is also naive in my opinion.

GDM/Rhino/WarnerCom (or whoever absorbed Warnercom) are businesses. Live Music Archive is NOT a business. LMA IS "All about the music". G/R/W is about mixing music and marketing to make profits.

Capitalism is NOT about providing goods and services so as to help people live better lives. Capitalism IS about using people's desire to live better lives to generate PROFITS. Many businesses are started by people who sincerely want to do the former, but the rigors of Capitalism almost inevitably turn any business into the latter. Rhino itself started as a Los Angeles music store that wanted to help some local bands get their recordings into market circulation. Gradually Rhino grew into a company that was able to make excellent niche-market recordings available to fans. From there they became a oldies re-issue house known for their quality and tastefulness. Then someone made some decisions that made the label a subsidiary of Warner Brothers Records. There are staff at Rhino who are making decisions about quality content in the products, but ultimately Rhino is one face of a megacorp. They take orders from the accountants at the megacorp. And when GDM gets in bed with Rhino, they too have to take orders from the megacorp.

The limited edition marketing model probably was an idea mandated by the accountants. It has worked wonders for both us fans and those seeking profits from GDM's operations. But accountants don't worry about "right and wrong", they worry about profit.

It is almost inevitable that FW69 will be released again. However, the powers involved understand that FW69 is one of their best resources (similar in community stature to Cornell). They will release it when some accountants are able to persuade their bosses that they have found a release method that will provide a level of profit that no other release method can possibly exceed. TPTB have other products to release in the meantime.

If you want "all about the music" or if you put morality over profit, you probably should focus on the Live Music Archive world. Pluck the fruits you think are worth it from here, but don't get emotionally invested in the commercial world here at GDM. (Just my advice)

Offline
Joined: Apr 23 2008
An ( several ) inconvenient truths

It's all about the music (said in a whiny childlike voice). A statement like that just shows the depth of ignorance of the individuals saying it. In current times it is of course a majaor factor, but ignores an understanding of human nature. As I've pointed out numerous times many people are collectors. That can mean several things. I want everything and it doesn't matter much who else has it. Far more likely it means I have something that is rare and only a few have it. Don't believe me then explain why in the days of taping especially when rare the elite traders would cut a song or in some other way to degrade even a small part when trading so they had they only pristine for the time version. Also if it was just about the music why do they go to the trouble and expense of producing artwork liner notes etc why not just release a bunch of cds in sleeves. Incidentally that is one of the reasons vinyl is making such a comeback. It's much more fun to hold and look at a 12" piece of art.
RHINO IS GREEDY! This is one of the more ignorant, foolish and shortsighted statements on here. If it wasn't for Rhino and the deadicated, pun intended, people that work on these releases we would see far fewer of them. The Dead are NOT interested in this kind of work. Thank you Warners for allowing or showing the foresight to allow Dave and everyone involed to do this for an amount of profit major corporations ( oh there's an evil word) most wouldn't think worthwhile Sony anyone?
As for the Cornell vinyl release I don't remember the exact wording of the original release and certainly wouldn't take the word of someone who 's integrity means so little to them they say rerelease fw '69 who cares what you promised. As for the value time will tell but if other releases, Hendrix etc are any guide 1st release 180 g retains its value. And I don't give a flying ..
. What some who is glad they didn't get back into vinyl thinks.
In finishing up this site shows that economic illiteracy a lack of understanding of other's motives aka empathy and really stupid thinking/slogans "It's just about the music" are alive and well. Just saying lol probably the single most egregious example of stupidity in language that exists. Have at it
Oh yeah to the guy why made a flat out statement about a show then said no arguments it's my opinion huh? WTF? What do you think arguments are? There are no argumets about the wprld being round or we really did go to the moon because those are facts whether a show you say is great that ain't a fact and is most certainly open to discussion/ argument

Terrapin Moon's picture
Offline
Joined: Apr 9 2018
9-18-94

if October 1 wasn't chosen for 30 trips then 9-18-94 should have been on deck. please release this awesome show. I agree with steve gold. no one is making you buy this or the previous one you bought. if you're buying it for "collector's value" all I have to say is Grateful Dead Productions is NOT responsible for your private merchant business on ebay. *FART!*

Offline
Joined: May 3 2012
FW ‘69!

No complaints here on this one. But if they are going to re-issue limited releases, why not hit us with The complete Fillmore West box? It’s one of the more sought after out of print releases, if not the most...

Many others have brought this up here on this site in the past, and I don’t mean to beat a dead horse here, but I see this as a perfect opportunity for a gentle suggestion...

C’mon

icecrmcnkd's picture
Offline
Joined: Oct 20 2015
15g polycarbonate disc or 180g vinyl disc

Which sounds better?
Anyone have both?
Does dropping to 140g vinyl reduce the sound quality?

Resellers just got shafted. Ha ha! (Nelson Muntz voice)

I guessed about 15g of polycarbonate. Those cheap-ass CDs from Mexico in the GSTL Box probably are closer to 10g.

uv1
uv1's picture
Offline
Joined: Jun 21 2012
Good deal for those who missed out last year

I bought the box set last year, and passed on the vinyl. Then earlier this year, after moving into my new house and setting up my record player, I decided I wanted to vinyl. Oh, boy, were people asking for a lot of money on the secondary market! I looked and looked and looked for a copy at a reasonable price. Finally found one in March for about $185 after shipping. Not bad considering the original price, and how much other folks were asking.

Now, lo and behold, the folks at GD productions and Rhino are reissuing the vinyl. Am I miffed? Not at all! Happy I have the original release, especially for the fact that it’s on the 180g vinyl. And I’m psyched for everyone who wants this on vinyl who can now get it.

And hey, the original limited edition is still limited edition, so no big deal for me.

mbarilla's picture
Offline
Joined: Aug 8 2013
Freshly pressed circular pieces of joy

Hahaha was that the cd masters they used. These returned tapes must have cost them a pretty penny because I thought this all came out last year on 180Gram. Did they really need to hop on this anniversary again ? Just wait for the 200 gram cause that is what's next

I'm not buying this record and I could care less who is buying it. However, I do think comments are important for feedback and essential that the business men at Rhino gets a few. And to your point the 1 of 1 collectible or 1 of X # mass production. Rhino has implemented this limited edition model. Direct your complaints to them.

When GD live vault releases first went down they didn't have to be advertised as limited and people picked them up as time went by. Now Rhino is giving people heads up, making an effort to even offer advice how and when to buy, so they don't miss out. People are taking their word and trusting it. So when they go and say something is limited and then turn around to offer another product - that essential makes them look bad and people are going to question the business practices. I get the feeling people are a little peeved cause sometimes they scramble around to get ahold of these advertised releases at any cost.

I like this band and I will continue to support these releases with money but I am not going to be a taken for a ride cause some dope at Rhino couldn't figure out these were the most requested shows and they should have made more of each. It's May 1977 !! For Crying out loud ! instead of 100,000 Fare Thee Well box sets or whatever that was when half the people there were sharing the vids online as they went down.

Didn't the Grateful Dead get tired of the whiney chumps at Warner Bros and start own label ?

Offline
Joined: Jan 27 2018
Meh!

I bought it. Whatever - I wanted it. I was pretty bummed out when I missed this last year. I actually got into GD back in university listening to random shows on Archive.org and somehow gravitated to this show. It really got me into them. I was somewhat surprised/not surprised when I found that it was their “best” show. Either way, it’s a cool thing to have, and I can listen to it.

Any idea why they changed from 180g to 140g? I’m not sure about this. Are they doing it to make more money? We’re the 180g records screwed up somehow?

X
Added to Cart Cornell 5/8/77 Vinyl (5-LP)

You might also like these items

$11.98
Add To Cart
Added To Cart
$10.00
Add To Cart
Added To Cart
$25.00
Add To Cart
Added To Cart
Continue shopping »